OLYMPUS TECHNOZONE Vol.62 2004-12

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Cloning as a new technique for elucidation of unknown mechanisms

Genome reprogramming laboratory led by Dr. Wakayama at the RIKEN Kobe Institute
Genome reprogramming laboratory led by Dr. Wakayama at the RIKEN Kobe Institute, Center for Developmental Biology.
Ueda: 
Cloning research is inevitably dogged by ethical issues, isn't it?

Miyazawa: 
Ethics are indeed a big question. Those of us dealing with laboratory animals are constantly monitored by animal protection groups, for example. In my view though, such organizations are an absolute necessity. Without them it would be chaos. I personally take care of the animals I use in my research, and I know not to go too far, but a growing number of researchers have never handled a lab mouse themselves. Instead, they conduct experiments on mice prepared by other technicians.
We also need the eyes of animal protection groups on us to prevent further criticism to the extent that we can no longer conduct animal experiments.


Ueda: 
You believe that, ultimately, cloning research is for the benefit of humankind.

Wakayama: 
That's correct. I will say, however, that human beings simply should not even consider cloning themselves as a form of infertility treatment. People often ask me with accusatory undertones, "How do you feel about developing a technique that could lead to human cloning?" The value of cloning lies not in human clones, but in applications such as medicine and livestock breeding.
In terms of fundamental biochemistry, of course cloning is also a new means of studying things that we don't yet fully understand, such as cell division and initialization. In this sense, cloning is a new technique that didn't exist previously for that purpose.


Ueda: 
I was particularly impressed by the remark you made in your lecture that no one actually understands the mechanism by which the egg initializes the nucleus of the somatic cell artificially through nucleus transplant.

Wakayama: 
Yes. I mean it's very hard to imagine that somatic cells taken from the tail of a mouse would produce offspring. It would never happen in nature. But when that somatic cell is transplanted into an egg, it is initialized. Do eggs have the ability to perform initialization? If so, why? Organisms have shed what they don't need through the process of evolution. Only the necessary things are passed on to the next generation. If eggs have the ability to initialize cells, it's because that ability is necessary. So is that initialization mechanism the same as fertilization?
Cloning techniques also provide a valuable new tool for studying fertilization itself.
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